cecil

[taysdad]

saw this and had to share. my feelings exactly. (photo that is mentioned is a picture of kate on the left and ceicl on the right)

**Warning** Be mad at me if you want for what I am about to write, but I do not fit into the mold of political correctness, and never will.

Cecil the Lion from Zimbabwe was killed unjustly by a foreigner who shouldn't of been there. Cecil was suppose to be protected by Zimbabwe's National Park Patrol. Killer receives death threats from people all over the US. People who stand up for Cecil are called loving.

Kate the Human from the US was killed unjustly by a foreigner who shouldn't of been there. Kate was supposed to be protected by US border patrol. No death threats around the US. People who stand up for Kate are called racist bigots.

Right now there are US citizens looking at this photo looking back and forth at the pictures from left, to right. Right now someone's eyes are tearing like Jimmy Kimmel's did. As their eyes fill up with water, it is because they can't help but focusing at the picture to the right, and feel no emotion to the left picture. This is the reality of our current situation. This is what we are up against....

[izne1home]

According to World Health Organization statistics, almost 90,000 abortions have been performed in the U.S. since Cecil the Lion was killed. 

[valleynative]

Its an upside down world

[bksflddan]

It centers around this:

GAIA WORSHIP - THE NEW PAGAN RELIGION

Contender Ministries
Posted:  October 06, 2002

Anyone who has studied the global environmental movement has no doubt heard the term "Gaia".  Gaia is a revival of Paganism that rejects Christianity, considers Christianity its biggest enemy, and views the Christian faith as its only obstacle to a global religion centered on Gaia worship and the uniting of all life forms around the goddess of "Mother Earth".  A cunning mixture of science, paganism, eastern mysticism, and feminism have made this pagan cult a growing threat to the Christian Church.  Gaia worship is at the very heart of today's environmental policy.  The Endangered Species Act, The United Nation's Biodiversity Treaty and the Presidents Council on Sustainable Development are all offspring of the Gaia hypothesis of saving "Mother Earth".  This religious movement, with cult-like qualities, is being promoted by leading figures and organizations such as former Vice President Albert Gore, broadcaster Ted Turner, and the United Nations and it's various NGO's.  Al Gore's book "Earth in the Balance" is just one of many books that unabashedly proclaims the deity of Earth and blames the falling away from this Pagan God on the environmentally unfriendly followers of Jesus Christ.  The United Nations has been extremely successful in infusing the "Green Religion" into an international governmental body that has an increasing affect and control over all of our lives.

[Just_A_Fan]

I'm no greenie by a long shot but what this jackwagon did is completely unacceptable...baiting endangered animals off preserves and killing them to get your jollies off is the act of an ass@#@$....not disagreeing with some of the stuff in your posts but lets not shirk off what this clown did just because others that may be politically opposite of us are saying it was a crime...it was and this peckerhead needs to held accountable for it....

[Denver Viking]

I think it should be pointed out that lions are not endangered.

[izne1home]

I'm no greenie by a long shot but what this jackwagon did is completely unacceptable...baiting endangered animals off preserves and killing them to get your jollies off is the act of an ass@#@$....not disagreeing with some of the stuff in your posts but lets not shirk off what this clown did just because others that may be politically opposite of us are saying it was a crime...it was and this peckerhead needs to held accountable for it....

I've never quite understood the appeal of large game hunting.  I think God put some animals on the earth for no reason other than target practice, but I've always thought hunting in general, is a little strange.  The more majestic the creature, the more sickening.

Having said that, we have completely lost our perspective.  If he needs to be held accountable for shooting an animal on a game preserve, so be it.  Why in the world is that an issue for the national media, and more to the point, why are we even discussing it here?  We have people killing police during routine traffic stops, cops beating the hell out of innocent citizens, politicians blowing smoke straight up our backsides and ushering our once great country into the history books.  And to put an exclamation point on it, around 100,000 abortions have been performed in the U.S. alone, since the day Cecil was killed.

Again, the Cecil story stirs up emotion, but this thing has been fanned into mass hysteria.  We have become so calloused to real life and death issues, that we suddenly place the life of a beast over the life of human.

Or maybe it's just a big distraction.  A red herring that gets our attention because it stinks, but is nothing more than a dead fish.  When the dust settles, Cecil is one of hundreds of lions that will be poached.  Africa has made a huge industry out of big game hunting.  Nobody should be surprised that this happens.  We all act stunned. 

[Just_A_Fan]

I think it should be pointed out that lions are not endangered.

Might want to double check that....from the 40's to the 60's the numbers almost halved and in the last 50 years  their numbers are down from 200,000 to 20,000-24,000.....just watched a documentary on the big cats and the lion is falling fast in numbers...a number of big efforts in the reserves and other places to keep them and the other big cats safe....that's a species that's in danger of being wiped out at those rates.

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Lions Are At Risk


Over the past 50 years Africa's lion populations have plummeted from over 200,000 individuals back in the 1960′s to fewer than 25,000 today. A shocking number if you consider the size of that continent, and by far the greatest number of remaining lion populations are small, scattered, and highly vulnerable.

There have been many conservation foundations working to improve the lot of the African lion, but sadly to date the declines have not abated. In fact the rate of decline in lion numbers is accelerating. Ghana, Coted'Ivoire, and Congo are the latest African countries added to long list that have lost all their lions, and Nigeria, Kenya and Uganda predict local extinctions in the next ten years.

While many factors are listed as contributory to the overall decline in lion population numbers (including loss of habitat, conflict with growing human and livestock populations, declines in the number of functioning protected areas, etc), trophy hunting is a highly significant and immediately preventable source of additive mortality. The CITES Trade Database lists a total of 6,652 lion trophies exported 2000-2009, virtually all males. This number very likely exceeds lions killed as "problem" animals due to livestock and human attacks: as one example, between 1992 and 1998, 135 lions were reportedly killed as problem animals in northern Botswana. During that same time, 198 trophies were exported from the same area. Lion trophy hunting is not a sustainable practice, does not comply with CITES and EC WTR regulations that trade should not negatively affect species' conservation status, and should be abolished.

- Lion Aid™ Ltd

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National Geographic Society


Declining Lions

Lions are dying off rapidly across Africa. These cats once ranged across the continent and into Syria, Israel, Iraq, Pakistan, Iran, and even northwest India; 2,000 years ago more than a million lions roamed the Earth. Since the 1940s, when lions numbered an estimated 450,000, lion populations have blinked out across the continent. Now they may total as few as 20,000 animals. Scientists connect the drastic decreases in many cases to burgeoning human populations. The Big Cats Initiative aims to halt lion population declines by the year 2015 and to restore populations to sustainable levels. You can be part of this important work by donating to the Big Cats Initiative or by applying for a grant to help big cats.

[izne1home]

For perspective, almost 100,000 abortions have occurred in the U.S. alone since Cecil was killed.  One fetus for every seat in the L.A. Colosseum, since July 1.  Tens of thousands of children have died due to malnutrition since Cecil died, many of them in Cecil's backyard.  The list goes on, and on, and on...

[Just_A_Fan]

I've never quite understood the appeal of large game hunting.  I think God put some animals on the earth for no reason other than target practice, but I've always thought hunting in general, is a little strange.  The more majestic the creature, the more sickening.

Having said that, we have completely lost our perspective.  If he needs to be held accountable for shooting an animal on a game preserve, so be it.  Why in the world is that an issue for the national media, and more to the point, why are we even discussing it here?  We have people killing police during routine traffic stops, cops beating the hell out of innocent citizens, politicians blowing smoke straight up our backsides and ushering our once great country into the history books.  And to put an exclamation point on it, around 100,000 abortions have been performed in the U.S. alone, since the day Cecil was killed.

Again, the Cecil story stirs up emotion, but this thing has been fanned into mass hysteria.  We have become so calloused to real life and death issues, that we suddenly place the life of a beast over the life of human.

Or maybe it's just a big distraction.  A red herring that gets our attention because it stinks, but is nothing more than a dead fish.   

Just seems to be way out of balance. 

You are looking at it wrong Iz, it's not one thing OR the other....It's ALL of it together.  The complete lack of caring about life in general, human and animal, is completely out of whack....we kill babies with unfettered abandon out of convenience and people like this dentist are doing the same to animals on the brink themselves....no thought, no caring, just hurray for me, whatever makes me happy for the moment, and with little to zero consequences....

[Just_A_Fan]

For perspective, almost 100,000 abortions have occurred in the U.S. alone since Cecil was killed.  One fetus for every seat in the L.A. Colosseum, since July 1.  Tens of thousands of children have died due to malnutrition since Cecil died, many of them in Cecil's backyard.  The list goes on, and on, and on...

So ignore one wrong because of another is happening?  Not so sure that's the right approach Iz....would think being pissed about Both is the correct outlook...

[Denver Viking]

Might want to double check that....from the 40's to the 60's the numbers almost halved and in the last 50 years  their numbers are down from 200,000 to 20,000-24,000.....just watched a documentary on the big cats and the lion is falling fast in numbers...a number of big efforts in the reserves and other places to keep them and the other big cats safe....that's a species that's in danger of being wiped out at those rates.

------
Lions Are At Risk


Over the past 50 years Africa's lion populations have plummeted from over 200,000 individuals back in the 1960′s to fewer than 25,000 today. A shocking number if you consider the size of that continent, and by far the greatest number of remaining lion populations are small, scattered, and highly vulnerable.

There have been many conservation foundations working to improve the lot of the African lion, but sadly to date the declines have not abated. In fact the rate of decline in lion numbers is accelerating. Ghana, Coted'Ivoire, and Congo are the latest African countries added to long list that have lost all their lions, and Nigeria, Kenya and Uganda predict local extinctions in the next ten years.

While many factors are listed as contributory to the overall decline in lion population numbers (including loss of habitat, conflict with growing human and livestock populations, declines in the number of functioning protected areas, etc), trophy hunting is a highly significant and immediately preventable source of additive mortality. The CITES Trade Database lists a total of 6,652 lion trophies exported 2000-2009, virtually all males. This number very likely exceeds lions killed as "problem" animals due to livestock and human attacks: as one example, between 1992 and 1998, 135 lions were reportedly killed as problem animals in northern Botswana. During that same time, 198 trophies were exported from the same area. Lion trophy hunting is not a sustainable practice, does not comply with CITES and EC WTR regulations that trade should not negatively affect species' conservation status, and should be abolished.

- Lion Aid™ Ltd

_______

National Geographic Society


Declining Lions

Lions are dying off rapidly across Africa. These cats once ranged across the continent and into Syria, Israel, Iraq, Pakistan, Iran, and even northwest India; 2,000 years ago more than a million lions roamed the Earth. Since the 1940s, when lions numbered an estimated 450,000, lion populations have blinked out across the continent. Now they may total as few as 20,000 animals. Scientists connect the drastic decreases in many cases to burgeoning human populations. The Big Cats Initiative aims to halt lion population declines by the year 2015 and to restore populations to sustainable levels. You can be part of this important work by donating to the Big Cats Initiative or by applying for a grant to help big cats.

Decline in population doesn't mean they are endangered. They are "threatened" but that is a status that is less bad off than endangered. Many types of tigers are endangered but lions are not.

[izne1home]

You are looking at it wrong Iz, it's not one thing OR the other....It's ALL of it together.  The complete lack of caring about life in general, human and animal, is completely out of whack....we kill babies with unfettered abandon out of convenience and people like this dentist are doing the same to animals on the brink themselves....no thought, no caring, just hurray for me, whatever makes me happy for the moment, and with little to zero consequences....

We need to prioritize and fight for things that impact on our children, our society, our freedom, our faith...  The guy down the street who gets caught having an affair with his secretary will wreak far more human pain and destruction than a guy going big game hunting in Africa.  It is a tourist industry there, just like luaus are in Hawaii.  If lions are going extinct, somebody needs to tell the Africans to slow their role. 

You're right that we should never compromise, but we do.  It is not possible to tackle every social problem with the same zeal.  The destruction of unborn fetuses, the glorification of criminal behavior, the ushering in of America becoming a third world country, should take absolute precedence over the killing of a lion 6,000 miles away, but it doesn't.  All those things I just mentioned happen to be on the liberal agenda.  If you ask me, Cecil is a massive red herring.  And during the last month's mass Cecil hysteria, we've slowly compromised our willingness to allow abortions, unfettered criminal behavior, etc., with little to zero consequences, just a little bit more.

[Just_A_Fan]

Decline in population doesn't mean they are endangered. They are "threatened" but that is a status that is less bad off than endangered. Many types of tigers are endangered but lions are not.

Based on the statistical trends, lions will go the way of the white rhino within another 50 years....as of last week, four white rhinos left in the world, and there used to be lots of those too.  And a "decline" would suggest a general reduction in a population, a 95% reduction on the other hand, i.e 400,000 down to roughly 20,000 (and falling) in 70 years, is getting pretty darn close to "endangered", "threatened", or whatever other semantics we want to use to say we are killing off another major species from the planet...most of the big cats are in the same position, many are in worse.....

[valleynative]

I am not a fan of piers Morgan at all, and I'm not sure if everything he says in this blog is fact...but some of it is quite interesting.
http://indefinitelywild.gizmodo.com/lion-murderer-walt-palmer-has-done-more-for-conservatio-1720901473

I grew up hunting with my grandpa...from as early as I remember...some for food, mostly sport. It's not something I would enjoy doing today in the least, and I for sure could not kill an exotic animal...but it is a big money maker, and does create revenue to help said animals. Luring any off of a preserve though...not cool...this dentist is toast...his life is ruined, and he should be punished, but what if he didn't know the lion was from a preserve? He paid for a hunt...his guide should be held responsible too.

[Just_A_Fan]

I am not a fan of piers Morgan at all, and I'm not sure if everything he says in this blog is fact...but some of it is quite interesting.
http://indefinitelywild.gizmodo.com/lion-murderer-walt-palmer-has-done-more-for-conservatio-1720901473

I grew up hunting with my grandpa...from as early as I remember...some for food, mostly sport. It's not something I would enjoy doing today in the least, and I for sure could not kill an exotic animal...but it is a big money maker, and does create revenue to help said animals. Luring any off of a preserve though...not cool...this dentist is toast...his life is ruined, and he should be punished, but what if he didn't know the lion was from a preserve? He paid for a hunt...his guide should be held responsible too.

Good article Valley, the one thing this author leaves is that his numbers are for "legal" hunting however these animals are becoming endangered because of "poaching".....and that's because not many people have the kind of cash a legal hunt costs.  Poaching is so bad in some areas that the game wardens shoot to kill poachers.  I'm all for "game management" and sometimes populations have to be culled for the benefit of a species (i.e. deer) but when 95% of a major species has been wiped out in roughly 70 years, we collectively are doing some things wrong....there are strides being made in protecting the wild life in Africa and other parts of the world, and events like this do indeed spot light the need for wild life management.  No greenie here, but we really need to do a better job caring for our planet, especially when it comes to predator species as wiping them out throws the whole balance of nature out of whack....

[bksflddan]

http://9gag.com/gag/azV1Xdb/zebra-lives-matter

[Backwards K]

Blame on Daisy the BB Gun MFG. that's where it all starts for every big game HUNTER....

OH sure it starts with paper targets right after Christmas morning then by New Years grandmas coy fish in her pond, then the Red Breasted Sparrow, Daisy Rough Rider BB Gun was not enough after just a few short months of big game hunter apprenticeship school it was time to upgrade to a Crossman Air Rifle UGGG!!! UGGG !!!

Now we were ready for real big game like Black Birds and Bull Frogs and Squirrels and Rabbits and such , well that lasted all of about two summers then the neighborhood rich Kid showed up at the drainage ditch with His Marlin 22 LR Semi Automatic Rifle and I was hooked , just had to get my hands on one of them . Well did one better bought me a 12 gage single shot HR shot gun and handed to my buddy with the 22 LR but I forgot to mention the kick , Oh he was on his but all 76lbs. of his frame looking up at the sun, Sure Glad it was a single shot... Oh graduated to a Winchester 30.06 after that...  :D

[Backwards K]