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Garces Head Football Coach Jim Maples placed on LEAVE

Started by Word2thewise, July 29, 2013, 01:19:34 PM

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Just_A_Fan

Quote from: budha46 on August 02, 2013, 07:21:16 AM
Last time I checked I thought so too  :D
I would be a little pissed if this what about me and all the facts are not out yet or the siutation has not run its course. I agree Hurd

Just read through four pages of posts and haven't seen a fact, actually nothing really about what supposedly has transpired....hmmmm....maybe you all have a more than valid point  :huh: :huh:  ;)

SCrubjay

Quote from: Just_A_Fan on August 02, 2013, 08:31:56 AM
Just read through four pages of posts and haven't seen a fact, actually nothing really about what supposedly has transpired....hmmmm....maybe you all have a more than valid point  :huh: :huh:  ;)

I've read this site for 6 years and haven't seen more than a handful of FACTS!  why are we starting now????  :D :D :D

Speculation, innuendo and opinion are what keeps sites like this alive....  BUT that is NOT the same as character attacks and defamation....

Old School

I have been a Garces supporter for years. BUT, when they threw Dave F. under the bus and let him go my support for the administration at GHS went with Dave. EVERYONE at the school who played for Jimmy or coached with Jimmy in the 90's knows he is a great guy to hang out with. However, there was a reason he was let go at Garces the 1st time. So, it s no surprise to anyone in "the know" that he has run into trouble so quickly. I do no believe he was directly involved in anything racal. However, I believe he allowed the kids to be undisciplined and does not reflect the mission of the school. I stood in horror on the sideline at the VC game as I would hear the mouths of the boys on the sideline when something would go bad. They would drop f-bombs and no one would do anything about it. Before John F. was castrated, he would have ripped those kids up and down the field on Friday night and Saturday Morning. I am not saying Jimmy is guilty of any wrong doing bc I do not know what are the accusations. BUT I do know his hiring was an embarrassment to the Garces Alum and is reflective of some of the deeper issues going on with the administration. Don't worry though Garces peeps. Change is coming. Those of you in "the know" understand what I am saying.:)

Irisheyes

Quote from: Old School on August 02, 2013, 08:38:45 AM
I have been a Garces supporter for years. BUT, when they threw Dave F. under the bus and let him go my support for the administration at GHS went with Dave. EVERYONE at the school who played for Jimmy or coached with Jimmy in the 90's knows he is a great guy to hang out with. However, there was a reason he was let go at Garces the 1st time. So, it s no surprise to anyone in "the know" that he has run into trouble so quickly. I do no believe he was directly involved in anything racal. However, I believe he allowed the kids to be undisciplined and does not reflect the mission of the school. I stood in horror on the sideline at the VC game as I would hear the mouths of the boys on the sideline when something would go bad. They would drop f-bombs and no one would do anything about it. Before John F. was castrated, he would have ripped those kids up and down the field on Friday night and Saturday Morning. I am not saying Jimmy is guilty of any wrong doing bc I do not know what are the accusations. BUT I do know his hiring was an embarrassment to the Garces Alum and is reflective of some of the deeper issues going on with the administration. Don't worry though Garces peeps. Change is coming. Those of you in "the know" understand what I am saying.:)

I understand what your saying...

TeddyKGB

Redneckgirl, I read your first post this morning and have been giving it some thought as to how to respond. I have come to the conclusion that you will not see rational reason and will let your emotions blind you, as most women do. I would like you top point out where anyone suggested that Maples is a racist? When a person in authority (teacher/ boss/management) witnesses a person under their supervising do or make a comment that is inappropriate and they do not address it; they have ,by default, condoned it that is the message sent. I have not once implied or said what Maples did or is accused of, by the way. "I believe what you're saying dlion, I don't buy that Maples actively recruited anyone...that would take extra work and effort 2 qualities that elude his character." That's not slander, that is an opinion.

Just_A_Fan

Quote from: SCrubjay on August 02, 2013, 08:38:15 AM
I've read this site for 6 years and haven't seen more than a handful of FACTS!  why are we starting now????  :D :D :D

Speculation, innuendo and opinion are what keeps sites like this alive....  BUT that is NOT the same as character attacks and defamation....

Very true....

TeddyKGB

Quote from: Old School on August 02, 2013, 08:38:45 AM
I have been a Garces supporter for years.....
... However, there was a reason he was let go at Garces the 1st time....

Well Hurd, here's a person that is a long time garces supporter ( I will not hold that against him for the time being  :)-) and it doesn't appear that he very happy with this "really good man" does it? "BUT I do know his hiring was an embarrassment to the Garces Alum"

I am with you Redneckgirl, I hope Maples come out of this just fine and continues to roam the sidelines of garces for many more years to come.  :D

mw1

IMHO, for the majority of students, parents, and alumni, I don't think people at Garces really care.. one way, or the other.  There has not been any consistency in that program since Dave F. was let go.  There has been a different coaching staff for the freshman team pretty-much every year for the past 4-5 years.  The J.V. coach that everyone liked left... and there is a completely new coaching staff for the JV program.  There has been three head coaches in the past four years.. and all of the assistant coaches are relatively new, within last several years. 

Unfortunately, change is the new normal at that school... and everyone will just keep rolling with the punches.

If and when they finally put the person in charge who will provide long-term stability.. like John F. did for years and years, then people will really be passionate and give a crap about the status of the football head coach at Garces.

Garces should scout out and recruit the best coach available, sign him to a long term contract, pay him some real money... and do what schools like Oaks Christian, St. Bonaventure, and Bishop Gorman did - get the best athletes in the county to want to play at their school.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do."

Bronco

Quote from: mw1 on August 02, 2013, 10:40:56 AM
IMHO, for the majority of students, parents, and alumni, I don't think people at Garces really care.. one way, or the other.  There has not been any consistency in that program since Dave F. was let go.  There has been a different coaching staff for the freshman team pretty-much every year for the past 4-5 years.  The J.V. coach that everyone liked left... and there is a completely new coaching staff for the JV program.  There has been three head coaches in the past four years.. and all of the assistant coaches are relatively new, within last several years. 

Unfortunately, change is the new normal at that school... and everyone will just keep rolling with the punches.

If and when they finally put the person in charge who will provide long-term stability.. like John F. did for years and years, then people will really be passionate and give a crap about the status of the football head coach at Garces.

Garces should scout out and recruit the best coach available, sign him to a long term contract, pay him some real money... and do what schools like Oaks Christian, St. Bonaventure, and Bishop Gorman did - get the best athletes in the county to want to play at their school.
:u:  :u:  :u: The catholic schools in the central  section are "sleeping Giants" & could compete with the very best athletic programs in the valley while still providing the special kind of education that they are so proud of . That takes Long Term Commitment  : to the Program / the Coaching staff / the kids / the alum / the boosters & current supporters .

TeddyKGB

Quote from: mw1 on August 02, 2013, 10:40:56 AM
  ...get the best athletes in the county to want to play at their school.

That is what Bakersfield High does and I'm pretty sure we aren't going to share our athletes!

izne1home

Quote from: TeddyKGB on August 02, 2013, 10:50:31 AM
That is what Bakersfield High does and I'm pretty sure we aren't going to share our athletes!

Not sharing is like counter-recruiting. Equally punishable. 

Bronco

Quote from: TeddyKGB on August 02, 2013, 10:50:31 AM
That is what Bakersfield High does and I'm pretty sure we aren't going to share our athletes!
I know - AND - I am pretty sure that's why you do not want the Rams to get into the same business  8)

mw1

Quote from: TeddyKGB on August 02, 2013, 10:50:31 AM
That is what Bakersfield High does and I'm pretty sure we aren't going to share our athletes!

Here's is how it will go:  booster parent sent to recruit the 8th grader:  "Hey kid, want a fee iPad?"  Kid:  "SURE!"  - done
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do."

TeddyKGB

#93
Quote from: Bronco on August 02, 2013, 10:54:48 AM
I know - AND - I am pretty sure that's why you do not want the Rams to get into the same business  8)

won't be an issue Bronco we draw from 2 different pools... Why would anyone go to Toledo when you can go to Tuscaloosa

this is a garces "ipad":



Coach Hurd

When the truth shows up and the district address's the real issue in this mess, next week, I certainly hope all the haters and "know it all's" apologize for the effort of character assassination of a good man.   :d:

TeddyKGB

Where is the "character assassination" Hurd? So, Old School is way off on what he is saying?

dlion

Quote from: Old School on August 02, 2013, 08:38:45 AM
I have been a Garces supporter for years. BUT, when they threw Dave F. under the bus and let him go my support for the administration at GHS went with Dave. EVERYONE at the school who played for Jimmy or coached with Jimmy in the 90's knows he is a great guy to hang out with. However, there was a reason he was let go at Garces the 1st time. So, it s no surprise to anyone in "the know" that he has run into trouble so quickly. I do no believe he was directly involved in anything racal. However, I believe he allowed the kids to be undisciplined and does not reflect the mission of the school. I stood in horror on the sideline at the VC game as I would hear the mouths of the boys on the sideline when something would go bad. They would drop f-bombs and no one would do anything about it. Before John F. was castrated, he would have ripped those kids up and down the field on Friday night and Saturday Morning. I am not saying Jimmy is guilty of any wrong doing bc I do not know what are the accusations. BUT I do know his hiring was an embarrassment to the Garces Alum and is reflective of some of the deeper issues going on with the administration. Don't worry though Garces peeps. Change is coming. Those of you in "the know" understand what I am saying.:)


there is a vacuum leak at the top at Garces for some time now. They cant get any suction going to the prime the pump.  I am not a Garces alum but my 3 kids are as well as extended family. Jimmy could be more discipline with the kids, there is no doubt.  He is not an embarrassment to me though. This Garces alum you speak of are not all on the same page as you either.
Last year at this time Jimmy was fighting to get the job most people thought was already his.  The anti-Jimmy's of last year were just going to insert the appropriate 4 to 5 syllable  last name into the head coaching spot and accept the cursory donations that would follow.  Instead we got a guy who wasn't an stick in the mud , get in line , good lil boy type.....we got jimmy.
We got someone who could so radically change  in on year what Garces was so used to that it produced "THE MOST DYNAMIC TEAM IN GARCES HISTORY" .  (I DID NOT SAY BEST).
Jimmy may not be the ultimate answer for Garces but he sure got things shook up a bit.

If anyone reads this post please familiarize yourselves with the word dynamic as it relates to the word static.    Garces has had enough static  :u:
In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey!

studtchr

Here's is how it will go:  booster parent sent to recruit the 8th grader:  "Hey kid, want a fee iPad?"  Kid:  "SURE!"  - done

MW1 Each student must pay a techno;ogy fee of 200.00 a year for those IPADS, so if you offer them a free one that costs 200.00 then that is a financial gain and a recrutting violation.

mw1

Quote from: studtchr on August 02, 2013, 01:21:19 PM
Here's is how it will go:  booster parent sent to recruit the 8th grader:  "Hey kid, want a fee iPad?"  Kid:  "SURE!"  - done

MW1 Each student must pay a techno;ogy fee of 200.00 a year for those IPADS, so if you offer them a free one that costs 200.00 then that is a financial gain and a recrutting violation.

Let me rephrase:  8th grade kid sent to talk to another 8th grade kid:  "Hey, did you know that all students at GHS get iPads that are paid for by someone other than that teenage student?"
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do."

Redneckgirl

Quote from: TeddyKGB on August 02, 2013, 09:54:40 AM
Redneckgirl, I read your first post this morning and have been giving it some thought as to how to respond. I have come to the conclusion that you will not see rational reason and will let your emotions blind you, as most women do.

You mean tell me you read my comments first thing this morning, took the time and thought to consider how to respond, and that's all ya got?  You played the "Oh yeah.....well...you're a girl!" card?   Tsk....tsk....tsk......so disappointing.  I really thought you were more evolved.  Look out!  Your knuckles are dragging...... :)
"I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent"

Redneckgirl

"I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent"