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Robin Williams R.I.P

Started by The Eye in the Sky, August 11, 2014, 04:20:00 PM

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The Eye in the Sky

Sad day.....we was a great one  :cry:
Coach- " So they're gonna let you run the ball this year huh."
Player-" If they wanna win they will."

taysdad

Sad day indeed, terrible news. Rip

Just_A_Fan

Very Sad...funniest man to ever live....RIP Robin!!

Apparent suicide  :( :( :( :(

GoldenHawksFootball

It's just so sad that these Hollywood people continue to take their own lives. It's the most selfish thing someone could do. Now all the press will be going all crazy trying to figure this thing out asking all these questions. Let's go deep into the mind
of Robin Williams, into his mental health and his issues. The issue that all these people including Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Heath Ledger, Phillip Seymor Hoffman and on and on is they need to get off of drugs and into Jesus Christ.
Robin Williams was 1 of the funniest comics on earth. He was brilliant. Right up there after Don Rickels, Bill Cosby, Jay Leno, & Dana Carvey.

valleynative

Sad sad sad...Williams was loved by all ages...last night my 15 year old and a friend were watching one if his movies. I agree! One of the funniest men on earth. Robin and Bill Cosby are my most faves of all time.

Suicide...ugh...heartbreaking if true :(

Bronco

Suicide ???!!? I DO NOT understand it ??? The man had more going for himself then 99.9% of the people on earth !! :(


valleynative

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/08/11/robin-williams-evan-rachel-wood-genie-tweet_n_5670277.html

"Genie.  You're free."  Someone tweeted.  Guess that sums it up...  :(

I never knew depression was a "mental health issue".  I see lots of people posting about it.  My mom takes anti-depressants, my stepmom took them...I think my uncle suffers from depression...judging from some of his posts on FB.  It just breaks my heart that someone would think dead is better.
When I was 17, I worked with a girl at Pistol Pete's Pizza in Albuquerque.  Her name was Kelly.  She was beautiful, smart, well liked.  One night she went to the "make out" spot and shot herself in the head.  We weren't "friends", merely co-workers...but it floored me...I couldn't understand...still don't...it made my heart hurt though, that someone could be so...seemingly happy, and have it all...but so sad inside...

diesel

One of my favorite lines from his stand-up...."You can fool some of the people some of the time and jerk the rest off!".......he was one of the greats.....

Backwards K

The hidden story no one is addressing is the fact that the people who were close to him failed him miserably.  :(
\\\"Four things come not back: The spoken word, The sped arrow, The past life, The neglected opportunity.\\\" Some One Wise Said It...

\\\"You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.\\\"

GoldenHawksFootball

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QuoteThe hidden story no one is addressing is the fact that the people who were close to him failed him miserably.  Sad

Or could it possibly be that he failed the people around him? Maybe he loved comedy or his acting career more than his family or any other thing. There's no way to know for sure. But one thing I know is the people around him didn't strap a belt around his neck. It wasn't the spirit of God. He decided to end his OWN life! From what I saw, all of his accomplishments, the good will and generosity he bestowed to others it looked like he lived a great life. So how could you blame that on the people around him? I think you could blame a little of everything but mostly himself.

valleynative

Quote from: Backwards K on August 13, 2014, 05:06:28 PM
The hidden story no one is addressing is the fact that the people who were close to him failed him miserably.  :(

What???  I usually agree with you, but not on this. NOBODY can keep ANYBODY from committing suicide.  Honestly, I cannot fathom why anyone would choose death over life.  In life, you can make things better, in death, NOT.  But, although I know nothing about depression, it seems that it is a mental illness that is caused by a hormonal imbalance, but is treatable with medication.  That is the extent of my knowledge on the subject.  It BREAKS my heart that someone so FUNNY and SUCCESSFUL did not, could not, would not...whatever...get help.  But to say those close to him are at fault is cruel.  They have enough sorrow to live with.

Just_A_Fan

Quote from: Backwards K on August 13, 2014, 05:06:28 PM
The hidden story no one is addressing is the fact that the people who were close to him failed him miserably.  :(

Sorry K but that's often times not a fair assessment.....know a couple of people that decided they wanted to leave this life who had more support from those close to them than most folks ever get.....if anyone was "failed" it is often those left behind.

izne1home

I read that he was bi-polar.  We all enjoyed the comedy that flowed from his manic highs, it made him a comedic icon.  But if the lows were equal in impact, he was in some pretty dark places.  

The church is divided on whether depression is a spiritual or a medical condition.  But depression is a massively wide ranging term.  Bad life decisions, living lies, unresolved loss, tragedy, etc., can all result in a form of depression that probably does not benefit from medications that mask the symptoms.  In fact, most of the time those symptoms are signs that things need to change.  A pastor might tell you it's the Lord gently nudging you out of your predicament.

At the other end of the spectrum are guys like Williams.  A large number of drug abusers (who are self medicating) have a dual diagnosis.  The problem is that you cannot properly diagnose them until they are clean.  Otherwise, you are making a medical diagnosis based on drug induced symptoms or behaviors.  Many times, getting them on the proper medication solves the problem, but most of the time, they like the effect of their drugs better so they relapse, or refuse to leave their lifestyle.  Many homeless people fall into that category.

Sometimes, when you get them off all their medications, they discover that the symptoms they were fighting were being caused by the medication itself and the lies they've believed about their hopeless diagnosis.  I spoke to a mother who's son was diagnosed as bi-polar when he was younger.  He lived with it, tried to manage his medications, etc., and finally turned to illegal drugs.  They managed to get him off the illegal stuff but he was still struggling.  She walked into his room about two years ago to find him rigging up something to hang himself.  They got him immediate care, and a new psychiatrist.  After some tests, the doctor came in and told the kid he was not bipolar and they were going to start ramping him off his medications.  She said her son almost refused to believe it.  But eventually he accepted it, and immediately, his depression lifted, his countenance changed, and he had hope.  

Sometimes, you have a legitimate medical condition.  Sometimes, the truth will set you free.  




Backwards K

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Quote from: Just_A_Fan on August 14, 2014, 09:12:17 AM
Sorry K but that's often times not a fair assessment.....know a couple of people that decided they wanted to leave this life who had more support from those close to them than most folks ever get.....if anyone was "failed" it is often those left behind.

let me clarify, money was no object as far as having him committed, why watch someone drown even if they want to drown. Most certainly he failed himself first and foremost...

Heck we keep people alive artificially for years why not save their souls before hand with more then satisfactory attempts , arrest somebody who's a danger to themselves , from what I read signs were there pointed towards this event not away from it....
\\\"Four things come not back: The spoken word, The sped arrow, The past life, The neglected opportunity.\\\" Some One Wise Said It...

\\\"You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.\\\"

diesel

I read earlier today that he was in the early stages of Parkinson's Disease as well.......

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/robin-williams-had-parkinsons-disease-182942191.html#rmAbIWr

Just_A_Fan

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Quote from: Backwards K on August 14, 2014, 03:11:12 PM
let me clarify, money was no object as far as having him committed, why watch someone drown even if they want to drown. Most certainly he failed himself first and foremost...

Heck we keep people alive artificially for years why not save their souls before hand with more then satisfactory attempts , arrest somebody who's a danger to themselves , from what I read signs were there pointed towards this event not away from it....

It's easy to sit here and make judgements K, but the fact is that you can't just "commit" someone against their will who isn't displaying a danger to others...whatever demons Robin had he wasn't able to shake them....He'd been in and out of rehab at least a couple of times and was an admitted abuser of drugs and alcohol at points in his life.  People around him, from what I've read and heard, DID try to help him but at the end of the day Robin didn't take that help.  As posted above, he may have had early Parkinson's decease....maybe he decided he wasn't going to live and deteriorate like that....who knows in the end?  By all accounts we lost a good and generous soul in Robin Williams, most especially his family and friends did, and pointing fingers and tying to insinuate there is blame on others for Robin's actions doesn't seem quite appropriate to me....

Note:  Robin's wife confirmed today that he did have early stages of Parkinson's decease....having watched a family member wilt from that awful condition, and his immediate family suffer through it with him, maybe Robin just said, Nope, not me.  Couldn't blame him for that.


CWClassof2007

Suicide is one of those touchy subjects. But I don't think anyone should make assumptions about a person who is living in pain, whether is be physical or emotional. His death hit most people hard because of the guy he was on screen. I assume  most people didn't know what he was dealing with. I know I didn't. It all comes back to mental health in the end. I have the same theory on the topic of suicide that I do about these shooting that have occurred over the last couple of years. If we treat the mental well being of people first then we won't have to worry as much about their actions. There is a great quote by Patch Adams that I think relates to Robin Williams & others who have suffered with addiction, depression & mental illnesses of any kind.

"You treat a disease, you win, you lose. You treat a person, I guarantee you, you'll win, no matter what the outcome."

In my opinion there are too many doctors & health care professionals in this country treating the disease.


CWClassof2007