Who's #1 this week?

[Coach Scudder]

I believe the gate break down is 30% each school, 40% CIF.

[diesel]

I believe the gate break down is 30% each school, 40% CIF.

That's what I thought it was......or 1/3 each.......either way, it's a cut.....

[mkb152]

I believe the gate break down is 30% each school, 40% CIF.

This; except home site does get to deduct some expenses and paying of officials before the cut.

[Bench Warmer]

This; except home site does get to deduct some expenses and paying of officials before the cut.

They also self report what the gate total $ are  ;)

[Coach Scudder]

Since the CIF allows everyone into playoffs, districts establish their own requirements, wouldn't it make more sense for the CIF to pay for officials out of their cut?

[mkb152]

Since the CIF allows everyone into playoffs, districts establish their own requirements, wouldn't it make more sense for the CIF to pay for officials out of their cut?

Not really; it's done pre-cut so it's more equitable. And other sections don't even give the schools a cut, so I think it's fair.

If you host any state or regional events you get ZERO money.   ;)

[TeddyKGB]

this may be a stupid question, but what exactly does the CIF do other than make a cluster huck of rules and decide where and when playoffs take place? Where is all this money going?

[BHS Fan]

this may be a stupid question, but what exactly does the CIF do other than make a cluster huck of rules and decide where and when playoffs take place? Where is all this money going?

To the incompetent administrators within the CIF.

[mkb152]

this may be a stupid question, but what exactly does the CIF do other than make a cluster huck of rules and decide where and when playoffs take place? Where is all this money going?

OK, I'm going to treat this as an honest question.  The CIF is empowered by law to oversee and operate the sports programs for high schools in the state.

1.  For money, it's actually much less than you think.  The average elementary's school's operating budget dwarfs the section's budget by a large margin. 

2.  The Central section employs 3 full time employees and 3 part time area administrators who are basically volunteers.  It's probably the smallest staff of all the sections.

3.  The administrators many on this site always complain about *do not make the rules.*  Schools/leagues do through the board of managers, which is a democratic process.  The administrators simply enforce policy as best they can, and most people who actually talk/work with them respect them a great deal.  Much of the rule enforcement is left on the schools to enforce and self-report.  Believe it or not, *most* schools are not sketchy in this regard. 

4.  The vast majority of big decisions (re-leaguing, etc.) there is probably almost an excess of input of opinions from schools. 

5.  Our sections is *far* more open and easy to deal with than the other sections.  If you want an example of a Byzantine organization with random rules *very* sketchily enforced, see the Southern Section.  Want to see something closer to a dictatorship?  See the SJS. 


And, just a little tidbit of information:

Most states are run by associations as opposed to federations.  The main difference is that in an association it is much less democratic.
I have a friend who coached football and basketball in Texas for many years.  He explained that most decisions made in Texas are like "Word comes down from God.  No appeal (or a laughable one at best)."

[TeddyKGB]

thanks mkb, it was a honest question and your break down helped to clarify for me.

[TeddyKGB]