Central Section Champs will be at Rawhide in 2016

[Glenn]

Baseball news
After a 2-year run, Central Section Baseball Championships will return again to Rawhide in Visalia for the 2016 season

[allaboutfb]

Don't believe this is a good idea AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Two years in a row you have a Clovis and Buchanan Final and they have to drive to Visalia to play?  My thoughts are that if you earned a #1 seed then you have earned the right to play in front of your fans. 

If Varsity Coaches voted on this and want to do this then who cares what anyone else thinks.  If CIF decided this on their own then they are way off on this one. 

JMO

[Glenn]

allaboutfb

"Another very successful couple of days," Visalia Rawhide general manager Jennifer Pendergraft said. "All teams' fans traveled well and we heard nothing but compliments about the facility and atmosphere for the games. The CIF staff is great to work with, and we continue to take notes on the little things that will make the experience better the following year. This year, we had a couple teams traveling from the outlying locations of the section, and they stayed the night in Visalia before their games, so that added some nice economic impact for the city. Seemed to be another win-win event."

Crichlow noted that year two ran a lot smoother than last season's pilot run. In order to make things smoother for all parties involved — coaches, players, Rawhide staff and media — losing teams departed through the third-base side and the winners exited through center field, where Rawhide officials provided a tented area for media interviews and teams to celebrate their on-field accomplishments with family and friends.

Hydash, who wrapped up his second year as the Ranger skipper, hopes the championships stay at Rec Park beyond 2016.

"If we would have hosted the championship games at home, we probably would have had a lot of people there, but not as much as on Friday," Hydash said. "Having a venue that's a neutral and nice facility, you're going to draw people that wouldn't come to a game. Hopefully, they continue to do it. It's great for baseball. It's great for the community and it's great for the kids."

this what Pagmeter  say yesterday     i total agree  with  him 

Not real excited to empty stadium after every game but I really like Rawhide. Great atmosphere for baseball and a great stadium! I like it !

  allaboutfb   

it will be the same thing  if  Fresno  Host the Finals   

alots  team  in Visalia  will want stay  a night  before game not let the Players  have  2 Hours bus ride to fresno   

Like  CVC and cheavz    their wont Pack  Fresno State   or  Fresno Glizzers Park   

i Know 3 game  of 5   wont Pack the House    in thems baseball Park   in City of  fresno 


Now  my Opioion 

i Like Rawhide      But dont Like empty  Each game   either     But   If  other  Parent and Players from  other game  want go  like  other game  Like  i knew few   from CVC  went to Clovis Vs Buchanan  Valley champs in 2014    

it Most  will be Packeds  bc  Freinds  at  others School want go to Just not  Clovis and Buchanan  Fans 

Like me  i would Love to Stay  all 6 Games   in 2 day    i could only afford  one game that was cvc    i could have stay  watch Redwood  and Farmerville and   
Garces , Ridgeview,Firebaugh , Golden Valley

Now allaboutfb   

you want be Respect  have  Standign around the baseball field      for Big Valley champs game  u got Spend money     to have tons Food and Sodas and waters  and Parking Place for all the fans  ? 

Yes  Georgia and Alabama  and Florida  Host their Owner  But their Spend tons of Moneys   for More Standing  you can Sit down around the field       or their tell the fans  Bring the Long chairs      u can Sit around the Ball park   

  Trust me     Valley  Champs No close to georgia  High school  Baseball for State champs  game 

     

Ga  bring 15,000  fans  all over the Place to watch   it 

all the State champs  in Georgia Draw  15,000   or 20,000  and Scouts  of all MLB 

Yes   i dont Like Rawhide  Rules bout No Scouts at valley champs games   either 

If Rawhide Have Speical Sitting for thems you Loss  45 Sitting   Behind  Homeplater for College Baseball Coaches and MLB  Scouts  guys 

[allaboutfb]

Glenn,

I see your point but still do not agree.  I think the coaches should have more say over this then anyone else.  If the Majority of coaches would rather play on a neutral field then they should continue it.  If not, then they should change it.  My concern is if coaches even have a say in all of this.

[mkb152]

Well, the attendance from going to one site at Rawhide stadium is *way up* across the board.  And the nature of baseball is that being the home team at a neutral site has a built-in advantage compared to other sports.  I simply don't see a drawback to having it at Rawhide.

[CWClassof2007]

Well, the attendance from going to one site at Rawhide stadium is *way up* across the board.  And the nature of baseball is that being the home team at a neutral site has a built-in advantage compared to other sports.  I simply don't see a drawback to having it at Rawhide.

How is being the home team at a neutral site more of an advantage than being at home? Please explain that to me.

[mkb152]

How is being the home team at a neutral site more of an advantage than being at home? Please explain that to me.

Not *more* an advantage; my statement was badly worded.  What I meant was that being a home team (even at a neutral site) has a built-in advantage in baseball due to batting last each inning that does not exist in other sports.  So being the higher seed still has an advantage even though you aren't on "your own field".

Plusses/minuses:

+location mid-valley
+venue
+attendance and hence $$$ to schools and CIF
+atmosphere
-location (only if both schools are north or both south)
-"You aren't on your own field"

[Ty Cobb]

Baseball news
After a 2-year run, Central Section Baseball Championships will return again to Rawhide in Visalia for the 2016 season

Lets just face the facts. Nobody from the TRAC wants to go play in Visalia. Not the players, fans, coaches. IT was fine playing here in our own facilities.

[Glenn]

Lets just face the facts. Nobody from the TRAC wants to go play in Visalia. Not the players, fans, coaches. IT was fine playing here in our own facilities.

U will have bring in more standing for Central Valley area fans

Let face the facts TRAC it no close to state champs game like Georgia bring 15,000 and tons scouts all over the states

[Sixtynine]

U will have bring in more standing for Central Valley area fans

Let face the facts TRAC it no close to state champs game like Georgia bring 15,000 and tons scouts all over the states

Valley Championships have been fine in the past at the higher seeds stadiums.

and TBH, if California had a state championship for baseball it would be a huge draw and there would be more scouts at it than whatever there is in Georgia.

[Sixtynine]

I love how teams can't even hit BP at the stadium they play in. Have to walk across the street and then walk back. Lol. What a crock.

[mkb152]

Lets just face the facts. Nobody from the TRAC wants to go play in Visalia. Not the players, fans, coaches. IT was fine playing here in our own facilities.

This might come as a surprise to some, but the world does not revolve around Clovis.  There are 5 other divisions.  Rawhide is the best fit considering for all six.

[CWClassof2007]

How much of the money goes to the schools? Do they clear out the stadium after each game?

[mkb152]

How much of the money goes to the schools? Do they clear out the stadium after each game?

The typical payout is 40% CIF, 30% to each school.  For baseball, yes they do clear it out.  From what I've heard, payouts were much higher at Rawhide for all involved.

[Sixtynine]

I can't speak for anything but D1, but if that game was played in Clovis (as it should be), there would have been a bigger crowd.

[Baseball101]

This might come as a surprise to some, but the world does not revolve around Clovis.  There are 5 other divisions.  Rawhide is the best fit considering for all six.

Yeah....I'm going to have to sort of disagree with you there...yeah...in terms of Division I baseball...it sort of does...revolve around Clovis

[mkb152]

Yeah....I'm going to have to sort of disagree with you there...yeah...in terms of Division I baseball...it sort of does...revolve around Clovis

In other news... the world doesn't revolve around D1 either.

[Ty Cobb]

This might come as a surprise to some, but the world does not revolve around Clovis.  There are 5 other divisions.  Rawhide is the best fit considering for all six.

I never said it did. Have your other 5 divisions play in Visalia. You guys can empty and reload the stadium every inning if you want. Enjoy the drive down scenic 99 ...... But the D1 can stay at home in OUR venues and have the good old packed atmosphere we always have had.

[Baseball101]

In other news... the world doesn't revolve around D1 either.

Keep telling yourself that... :D

[Bikerdude]

How about something like the Southern Section does, use two sites. Do one in Fresno, Visalia or Bakersfield. The other site would be one of the other two cities. Three divisions play at one, three at the other. It could rotate between the three cities so travel might be less. Where you play is determined by the higher seed in your division. Example:
2015
D-1 in Fresno (1-Buchanan vs. Clovis)
D-2 Fresno ( 1 Redwood vs. Hanford)
D-3 Bakersfield (2  Ridgeview vs. Garces)
D-4 Bakersfield (2 Golden Valley vs Firebaugh)
D-5 Bakersfield (1 Cesar Chavez vs. CVC)
D-6 Fresno (1 Farmersville vs. McFarland)

All games finished in one day. Not perfect, but it might settle some people down a bit.

[Bikerdude]