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Central Section Champs will be at Rawhide in 2016

Started by Glenn, May 27, 2015, 09:49:02 PM

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Sixtynine

I don't understand why the higher seeds can't just host the VC.
Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

Bikerdude

CIF doesn't make as much money, small schools lose money hosting, and small schools don't get as much recognition. The first is the most important.

P.S. It also could have something to do with the state playoffs in baseball and softball that are in the near future. The Central Section is out of sync with most other sections in number of games played and playoff format.

knightsrule04

Cal-Hi Sports has been posting softball and baseball section finals from other sections around the state - through today! That's right, some sections have playoffs running TWO WEEKS longer than ours.
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CWClassof2007

Quote from: knightsrule04 on June 06, 2015, 11:25:27 PM
Cal-Hi Sports has been posting softball and baseball section finals from other sections around the state - through today! That's right, some sections have playoffs running TWO WEEKS longer than ours.
That's what happens when there are too many divisions in the section.

Glenn

Quote from: mkb152 on June 03, 2015, 09:40:04 PM
In other news... the world doesn't revolve around D1 either.

i agree  MKB152 it all bout Trac bout D2 and D3  and D4 and D5 and D6   

Most  of thems Team Beat   D1  Teams   already 
2015 CSL Champs  and 
2016   
2017 VC Runner up
2018  CSL Co Champs 
2018   State champs Runner up 

Send 2013  we be to Division Valley Playoff    

Ethel Ann Grimes Woodall
May 30 ,1938  to  April 27,2010

Glenn

Quote from: Glenn on June 07, 2015, 09:26:44 PM
i agree  MKB152 it all bout Trac bout D2 and D3  and D4 and D5 and D6   

Most  of thems Team Beat   D1  Teams   already 

Like Macfarland and Farmerville and Redwood and CVC  and Cheavz    their not Complain   bout it  their all Happy  their Play  in Visalia not Fresno      it be More Spent for  team travel  to Fresno   with gas Price 

If this Better   bout Trac  be Praivte School  with their Owner League   it not bout Trac Baseball  Most thems Team  in D2,D3,d4,d5,d6  could beat trac  team   
2015 CSL Champs  and 
2016   
2017 VC Runner up
2018  CSL Co Champs 
2018   State champs Runner up 

Send 2013  we be to Division Valley Playoff    

Ethel Ann Grimes Woodall
May 30 ,1938  to  April 27,2010

allaboutfb

They should just let all coaches vote on it in the off-season and go with the majority!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Baseball101

Quote from: Glenn on June 07, 2015, 09:29:14 PM
Like Macfarland and Farmerville and Redwood and CVC  and Cheavz    their not Complain   bout it  their all Happy  their Play  in Visalia not Fresno      it be More Spent for  team travel  to Fresno   with gas Price 

If this Better   bout Trac  be Praivte School  with their Owner League   it not bout Trac Baseball  Most thems Team  in D2,D3,d4,d5,d6  could beat trac  team   


If it isn't all about D1 or TRAC, then why post this?  Rhetorical question Glenn.
"Everyday is an opportunity you don't get back, so don't blow it working."- Frank Gallagher

Sixtynine

Quote from: Glenn on June 07, 2015, 09:29:14 PM
Like Macfarland and Farmerville and Redwood and CVC  and Cheavz    their not Complain   bout it  their all Happy  their Play  in Visalia not Fresno      it be More Spent for  team travel  to Fresno   with gas Price 

If this Better   bout Trac  be Praivte School  with their Owner League   it not bout Trac Baseball  Most thems Team  in D2,D3,d4,d5,d6  could beat trac  team   

Sorry. No.
Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

Baseball101

Quote from: Sixtynine on June 04, 2015, 11:42:04 AM
I don't understand why the higher seeds can't just host the VC.

This makes too much sense, that's why they don't do it.  :u:
"Everyday is an opportunity you don't get back, so don't blow it working."- Frank Gallagher

Glenn

Quote from: Baseball101 on June 08, 2015, 01:48:00 PM

If it isn't all about D1 or TRAC, then why post this?  Rhetorical question Glenn.

  i Post it   everyone  got Mad   Like their got their Feeling Hurt    the Host still at Rawhide   

If  all the coaches     in D1 to D6   Dont  like it their Need Speak  up          Appeal it  for High seed Host   it   

  i would rather the game be Play at Fresno State     their have more Seating    of Rawhide 

  Trust me    I Live  in Georgia  all my Life     Someone say Host  Valley champs    will be good  But you would Spent  tons  of Money   have to Spilt the Gates and Food   and Parking Alot  Price with 2 School   

40% to CIF and 30 % Each school  if you  Host Valley champs   

the Team Host the Finals  wont M<ake any Profile  off it when their have to Spilt  it with CIF and Concesson     you maybe have to Add Seating from Softball  Field  or JV Field   that would Cost not much  but  if you have to Renters Seating   for 1  DFay event for Valley champs   game   u wont Make Profile  off  it     like   

School  do now for Baseball at Rawhide 
2015 CSL Champs  and 
2016   
2017 VC Runner up
2018  CSL Co Champs 
2018   State champs Runner up 

Send 2013  we be to Division Valley Playoff    

Ethel Ann Grimes Woodall
May 30 ,1938  to  April 27,2010

Glenn

that why   No coaches  in D1 to D6   Complain for   their want 30% win  or Loss   to Help their school   

If you Host  it   you will have to Share the Profile  off to CIF and School you play with   

Like  Georgia Host it all the Profile go to GHSA   and Littlew to Host team and  other team   

that why Most Visitor team complain bout and Home Team their get 20% Host  it  and all to the GHSA   Offical 

you want Central section     offically  Agree and say  all the Profile you make at Gates and  Concesson go to thems  nothing to your Baseball Program   bout 10-20%   

2015 CSL Champs  and 
2016   
2017 VC Runner up
2018  CSL Co Champs 
2018   State champs Runner up 

Send 2013  we be to Division Valley Playoff    

Ethel Ann Grimes Woodall
May 30 ,1938  to  April 27,2010

Glenn

 Rawhide was not total control at Gates      it was CIF central  Section  did from my Souce at Rawhide   

Rawhide  fans   have Premintly Seating try Get their seating for the final    their was Reject have to Seating  somewhere  else   not their Nomal  Sitting 

All Finals  in Sports running by  CIF central  section   
Like CVC  Vs Redwood  in Valleyball   their Move to to COS all the Profile went to CIF and COS and  Both School   

Like CVC VS Liberty      CIF run the show  who get  in the game    60%  go to CIF and Conesson 10% and 10 % Each go to Both School   



Like Georgia High school Football GHSA run the show 1 st round  to Final Round  their Make the Money  Spilt with  team  or Georgia Dome  Host  it  and  2 School    the school  Dont make alot   

u want CIF central  section  agree  say   ok you Host  it   But all the Money you make at Gates and Conesson and  Parking Place go to thems their will Spilt    %  Each school  and  CIF   ?

you can complain bout  it  i dont see Most Coaches  Not complain  bout  it  with Win a Win Status   

Just think bout    if you  have 10,000  at Baseball game  with College scout and MLBGet  in free  that bout  40   Person    there 

and  9067  Fans from  each side and Media and TV Station   there   

you have Speaical Place for Medias     to sit at for Internet  and TV Stand     you overall going Los Behind the Home plate  with Medias  and MLB and college scout watch the game 

ticket  is 10.00  Each Person   No  Alumi   or fomer  players Get  in free  everyone  have to Pay  get  in the game

you going make 90,000    at the gate that Profile  will go to CIF  Central  section and  100,000  at conesson     

90,000  and whatever  u make at Conesson will go to CIF  central  section    their will Spilt  it for thems and Host team and Lost team  % 

If you have to Renter more Seating to your  Baseball   

Like Sample   Serria  Pacifi      their will have to add more Seating  or Move the game to Biggest  Staduim  just Like CVC and Farmerville and Mcfarland    the List go on  here

Most  D1 to D6 will Have to Add more Seating

Like Redwood their will have to take over that Cover to Fence  and Add Seating  outfield  if their Host  Finals

Like  Mt Whintney  and Golden West  and ED   

Selma  will have and Kingsburg and Immanuel will have to add more Standing   their will have to Renter thems 

Like  i say   No team want Be Recprct  Host  Final  when their going Loss  money   the same time 

Like  Football    Final   

Liberty  Medrea  could add Seating  if their was Play Golden west   it will be over pack House   

Liberty Medrea Knew CVC will bring  bout 600  Fans     But also   their could sitting around the fence   watch it from Long Chair   

Like Peoples was already talk  bout If Golden west win and CVC   

CVC  will have to Move their game bc Steating   to Downtown vislia    for  Biggest Staduim  we would be Home team    if Final   

i wish CIF central  section  in Football and Baseball Need be at  Fresno State Fields   

Parking  place would be suck   but  it be Worse  for the young Men Get taste   to Play  on College Football Field and baseball field 

Like Jim from CIF central  Section      in few year   Football Finals maybe End up at Fresno State  Football Field   for all Divison  Valley champs   

those Kids  play  on Rawhide field  is Speical Played at MInor League field at Visalia D back  Firld       

I dont think  if  i was a Kid    i would Love  it without the Fans say   it One  in Million  Oppiontinty    play  on Minor League maybe one day   i be play  on this field   

Like Georgia High school  Kids always Dream  play  on Altlanta falcons for the State finals   

i think alot Kids would Love to play   on Fresno State football Right now their maybe  end up at Fresno State   
Like Baseball Players their will careless what the fans  say  right now   
2015 CSL Champs  and 
2016   
2017 VC Runner up
2018  CSL Co Champs 
2018   State champs Runner up 

Send 2013  we be to Division Valley Playoff    

Ethel Ann Grimes Woodall
May 30 ,1938  to  April 27,2010

Sixtynine

I just hate not having a VC decided on a high school site on the higher seed field.

Also, if football moved the VC to Fresno State, that would suck even more. Talk about no environment with about 30,000 empty seats.
Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

mkb152

Quote from: Sixtynine on June 08, 2015, 07:09:51 PM

Also, if football moved the VC to Fresno State, that would suck even more. Talk about no environment with about 30,000 empty seats.


I agree that the section football game at a neutral field would kill the atmosphere and is not a good idea.
But that's simply not the case for baseball.  Every single final game has a much more exciting atmosphere at Rawhide, except for *maybe* the D1 game or years when Fowler has a good team.

Gate money completely backs this assertion up.  And having been to several of the finals at Rawhide and several at other sites, I can attest to it.

Glenn

Quote from: Sixtynine on June 08, 2015, 07:09:51 PM
I just hate not having a VC decided on a high school site on the higher seed field.

Also, if football moved the VC to Fresno State, that would suck even more. Talk about no environment with about 30,000 empty seats.


well think bout  GHSa for Georgia      D1 and D2 and D3  will be  20,000  togethers   Easy   

like Falcons   in Georgia Dome    Teams and coaches  not complain bc the Payoff win  or  Loss  there  their Get %

let  look at the Fact   

Seating capacity
Georgia Dome 
Football: 74,228

bout  25,000  Show up  for Friday  and Saturday  State champs  game   for High school  Football

it Depend  on the School  If their close Live  in Atlanta Area   it will be More  Each School   Avg 3,000  Students around  Atlanta Ga  Area 

Fresno State  41,031

  Look at D1  with Enroll    Most Division Teams avg 2,000  to 1,000     
School: Central High School
CBEDS: 4,020  that the Only school  D1  got more Students  in Central Valley Area 

Who care  it Less 15,000  at the game   at Fresno State   it alot Room for fans       i wont be shock Some the Kids  in Visalia and the Area will Attend the game  at Fresno State   Football  Field

Peoples wont complain  it No Room for  9,000  Staduim   Trust me   

Here a Sample Statesboro VS Warmer Robins   their Both Avg 3,000 Kids  Statesboro   Host  But when GHSA Step  in    say Stateboro   you got move the game to Georgia Southern  Football  Field   bc  it will be  like 25,000  Show up Both Side 
Former Students and Former Football Players  all Show up  Watch their school  Play for State champs  Before GHSa Decide   Get Atlanta Falcons Georgia Dome  Host   it for Final 

Both School  is Powerhouse Football  Team   
Warmer Robins win more State champs  in Football then  me   Trust me   

only why  the Fire Cheifs  already  told Warner Robins   when their top 8,000   on their side     the gate  is Close no more Fans   that why Warner Robins ask GHSA  to Move the game when GHSA Hear from StatesBoro  Officel and Fire cheifs their going Close and Lock it with  9,000  fans   Let other standing    outside the staduim after 3 Hours drivers    to Stateboro   
GHSA say   ok  we going ask Georgia Southern   to Host  it 
Stateboro  Officales   was POS  at GHSA   
Look this Past Year    in Football   u got have Room for Medias    in Pressbox and NFHS  Network   to Host  it  and Show it  on the Computer  or Iphone 



If   all the coaches   in Baseball  not complain  their Get %  win  or Loss   Like Clovis   Vs Buchanan   Both school Make Profile  off the CIF central section 
Quote from: mkb152 on June 08, 2015, 07:46:53 PM
I agree that the section football game at a neutral field would kill the atmosphere and is not a good idea.
But that's simply not the case for baseball.  Every single final game has a much more exciting atmosphere at Rawhide, except for *maybe* the D1 game or years when Fowler has a good team.

Gate money completely backs this assertion up.  And having been to several of the finals at Rawhide and several at other sites, I can attest to it.

Yes  it good Place  Host Baseball Finals    But   if your College Scouts and MLB scout cant Bring  in their Radar Gun     
alots Coaches was Upset  thems scouts cant bring  in their Radar guns  for Final   

If you Play  at Fresno Grizzlers you think  their would Let thems other scouts  in  with  Radar Guns   Heck No     
you would rather  have to Play  at  Fresno State  baseball Host  it   

 
2015 CSL Champs  and 
2016   
2017 VC Runner up
2018  CSL Co Champs 
2018   State champs Runner up 

Send 2013  we be to Division Valley Playoff    

Ethel Ann Grimes Woodall
May 30 ,1938  to  April 27,2010

Sixtynine

Georgia may draw 20,000 for football state championship.

We would not draw 20,000 for a section championship. Georgia wouldn't either.
Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

Sixtynine

Just my opinion, but my opinion is right