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Started by valleynative, July 23, 2015, 10:17:40 PM

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diesel

Where do you guys get "self-made man"???

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is an American business magnate, investor,[10] television personality, and author. He is the chairman and president of The Trump Organization and the founder of Trump Entertainment Resorts.[1] Trump's lifestyle and outspoken manner, as well as his books and his media appearances, have made him an American celebrity. He hosted The Apprentice,[2] a US TV show.

Trump is a son of Fred Trump, a New York City real estate developer.[11] Donald Trump worked for his father's firm, Elizabeth Trump & Son, while attending the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, and, in 1968, officially joined the company.[12] He was given control of the company in 1971, renaming it The Trump Organization.[13][14] Trump remains a major figure in the real estate industry in the United States and a media celebrity.[15]

In 2010, Trump expressed an interest in becoming a candidate for President of the United States in the 2012 election,[16][17] but in May 2011, he announced he would not run.[18] He was a featured speaker at the 2013 Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC),[19] and, in the same year, began researching a possible presidential bid in the 2016 election.[20][21] On June 16, 2015 at Trump Tower in Manhattan, Trump formally announced his candidacy for President of the United States in the 2016 election, seeking the nomination of the Republican Party.[22][23]

Just_A_Fan

Quote from: diesel on July 29, 2015, 01:05:33 PM
Where do you guys get "self-made man"???

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is an American business magnate, investor,[10] television personality, and author. He is the chairman and president of The Trump Organization and the founder of Trump Entertainment Resorts.[1] Trump's lifestyle and outspoken manner, as well as his books and his media appearances, have made him an American celebrity. He hosted The Apprentice,[2] a US TV show.

Trump is a son of Fred Trump, a New York City real estate developer.[11] Donald Trump worked for his father's firm, Elizabeth Trump & Son, while attending the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, and, in 1968, officially joined the company.[12] He was given control of the company in 1971, renaming it The Trump Organization.[13][14] Trump remains a major figure in the real estate industry in the United States and a media celebrity.[15]

In 2010, Trump expressed an interest in becoming a candidate for President of the United States in the 2012 election,[16][17] but in May 2011, he announced he would not run.[18] He was a featured speaker at the 2013 Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC),[19] and, in the same year, began researching a possible presidential bid in the 2016 election.[20][21] On June 16, 2015 at Trump Tower in Manhattan, Trump formally announced his candidacy for President of the United States in the 2016 election, seeking the nomination of the Republican Party.[22][23]

Who said he was a self-made man?  Just ran through the posts and don't see that any where....maybe I missed it.

However, Trump has been an extremely successful businessman....hope you aren't trying to deny that....he has taken an inheritance of somewhere between $40-200 million (no small amount) and turned in into a $10 billion plus business enterprise....that didn't happen by him sitting back and living off daddy's money.....self-made is relative, but Trump is no Hampton's style trust fund kid....

SCrubjay

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Quote from: Just_A_Fan on July 29, 2015, 02:31:13 PM
....he has taken an inheritance of somewhere between $40-200 million (no small amount) and turned in into a $10 billion plus business enterprise.......

First... one thing Diesel is missing is that when he took over his Dad's company he was only 25 ... and those estate values weren't until his dad's death in 1999.... so how much of the growth in his dad's estate was directly a result of Donald Trump's management?

Second...  and you all know how much I love this stuff.... in 1999 there was only a $650,000 estate tax exemption per person with an unlimited spousal exclusion ... proper planning would have dictated that only $650,000 was left in Fred's estate (so that no taxes were paid) and all the remaining $300,000,000 went tax free to his wife....  but, uh oh, she died the very next year, which is really bad planning...  so her taxable estate would have been about $299,500,000... at a rate of 55%... so after taxes about $135,000,000.... Donald is one of 5 kids (one brother predeceased his parents, but he was married and that branch was presumably still taken care of).... so Donald's share was probably closer to $27,000,000 ....  nothing to sneeze at but I personally know many people in this valley alone who have inherited a whole lot more and done a whole lot less 

diesel

Quote from: Just_A_Fan on July 29, 2015, 02:31:13 PM
Who said he was a self-made man?  Just ran through the posts and don't see that any where....maybe I missed it.

Read again.....

Quote from: Backwards K on July 24, 2015, 10:30:58 AM
Here's the difference and why he can speak his mind, HE's Nobodies BOY ? He is a self made man who has the income to defend himself in any court in the nation and the ability to hire the quality of security that can defend him against threat.

That's a great place to be and speak the truth... as well as your mind on things of injustices ... He will be the most Patriotic leader this country will have seen in a long long time ... maybe since Truman...

assuming of course he can wing it...

No one else called him on it so I assumed you all agreed with him.....;)

Just_A_Fan

Quote from: diesel on July 30, 2015, 10:19:11 AM
Read again.....

No one else called him on it so I assumed you all agreed with him.....;)

I missed it, need to work on my speed reading.... :shock:  :D

valleynative

Quote from: Just_A_Fan on July 30, 2015, 01:14:06 PM
I missed it, need to work on my speed reading.... :shock:  :D

Come on JAF...it's only 2 pages...it's not like you have a real job or anything  ;) :)- ;)

Just_A_Fan

Quote from: valleynative on July 30, 2015, 01:35:39 PM
Come on JAF...it's only 2 pages...it's not like you have a real job or anything  ;) :)- ;)

LOL.... yea, I'm one of those business execs that works 9-5 and takes month long vacations, I should do better.... ;)  :D

Backwards K

Quote from: diesel on July 30, 2015, 10:19:11 AM
Read again.....

No one else called him on it so I assumed you all agreed with him.....;)

BEEN AWAY FOR A BIT,  anyway, meant absent lobbyist produced candidate...
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valleynative

Tomorrow! It's going to be the best debate I've ever watched. Can't wait to see Trump in action.
He said on O'Reilly that he's building a wall...and Mexico is going to pay for it...OReilly asked how he would convince Mexico to do that...Trump: I'm going to tell them to.
His confidence is amazing lol

Just_A_Fan

Quote from: valleynative on August 05, 2015, 03:19:55 AM
Tomorrow! It's going to be the best debate I've ever watched. Can't wait to see Trump in action.
He said on O'Reilly that he's building a wall...and Mexico is going to pay for it...OReilly asked how he would convince Mexico to do that...Trump: I'm going to tell them to.
His confidence is amazing lol

He better come up with a better answer though...like his confidence but you have to give details....people are tired of platitudes...

tru guru

Quote from: Just_A_Fan on August 05, 2015, 06:37:02 AM
He better come up with a better answer though...like his confidence but you have to give details....people are tired of platitudes...

I think he has an answer ready.  Just doesn't want it vetted in the media before the debate.

diesel

Quote from: valleynative on August 05, 2015, 03:19:55 AM
Tomorrow! It's going to be the best debate I've ever watched. Can't wait to see Trump in action.
He said on O'Reilly that he's building a wall...and Mexico is going to pay for it...OReilly asked how he would convince Mexico to do that...Trump: I'm going to tell them to.
His confidence is amazing lol

He's going to hire illegal immigrants to build it...... ;)

valleynative

Quote from: diesel on August 05, 2015, 10:31:39 AM
He's going to hire illegal immigrants to build it...... ;)

If they build it from the Mexico side, they're not illegal lol

valleynative

Quote from: Just_A_Fan on August 05, 2015, 06:37:02 AM
He better come up with a better answer though...like his confidence but you have to give details....people are tired of platitudes...

Absolutely...he hinted at 'trade' agreements.

valleynative

Quote from: tru guru on August 05, 2015, 06:52:18 AM
I think he has an answer ready.  Just doesn't want it vetted in the media before the debate.

Good point...I can't imagine he will be unprepared.  Trump is kind of arrogant, I can't imagine he will make himself look like an idiot. 

Just_A_Fan

Quote from: valleynative on August 05, 2015, 12:23:01 PM
Good point...I can't imagine he will be unprepared.  Trump is kind of arrogant, I can't imagine he will make himself look like an idiot. 

LOL...I kind of doubt that as well....now he may call someone an idiot politician during the evening, which is when the sparks will start flying...  :D ;)

Denver Viking

Lots of talk out there on Bill Clinton encouraging Trump to run for the GOP nomination. Is he a Hillary plant?
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diesel

Quote from: valleynative on August 05, 2015, 12:23:01 PM
I can't imagine he will make himself look like an idiot. 

Have you not been paying attention?? LOL!!

Just_A_Fan

Quote from: diesel on August 05, 2015, 01:57:19 PM
Have you not been paying attention?? LOL!!

He's actually saying what a lot of people have been thinking....that's why his numbers are climbing so quickly....he might actually make a good POTUS, someone with some backbone and not afraid to say No...

valleynative

Quote from: Just_A_Fan on August 05, 2015, 02:54:41 PM
He's actually saying what a lot of people have been thinking....that's why his numbers are climbing so quickly....he might actually make a good POTUS, someone with some backbone and not afraid to say No...

Also someone who would put knowledgable people in key positions and actually listen to them

valleynative