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Started by Majorapplewhite, September 06, 2016, 12:14:30 PM

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Majorapplewhite



List the TOP Qb's in the valley

Johnson Madera South
Lake Clovis
Martinez Clovis West
Ramirez Selma
Bailey Clovis North
Leforge Buchanan

Majorapplewhite


Touchback

These are the top 7 in MaxPreps:

1   Jeremiah Galaviz - Sr Farmersville      QB   
2   Andre Aguilar - Sr Tulare Western (Tulare)   QB   
3   Trent Tompkins - So Central (Fresno)   QB      
4   Conor Bruce - Sr Garces Memorial (Bakersfield)   QB
5   Adrian Martinez - Jr Clovis West (Fresno)   QB      
6   Michael Alvarez - Sr San Joaquin Memorial (Fresno)   QB
7   Trey Lake - Sr Clovis   QB

Touchback


Jazz

You have to have Johnson from Hanford (offers in hand), and Sean Chambers from Kerman could be in that mix as well.

Jazz


CWClassof2007

Quote from: Touchback on September 06, 2016, 01:16:46 PM
These are the top 7 in MaxPreps:

1   Jeremiah Galaviz - Sr Farmersville      QB   
2   Andre Aguilar - Sr Tulare Western (Tulare)   QB   
3   Trent Tompkins - So Central (Fresno)   QB      
4   Conor Bruce - Sr Garces Memorial (Bakersfield)   QB
5   Adrian Martinez - Jr Clovis West (Fresno)   QB      
6   Michael Alvarez - Sr San Joaquin Memorial (Fresno)   QB
7   Trey Lake - Sr Clovis   QB

Based on stats? I think that most schools in the section enter stats on maxpreps.

CWClassof2007


Touchback

Quote from: CWClassof2007 on September 06, 2016, 03:56:30 PM
Based on stats? I think that most schools in the section enter stats on maxpreps.


That list was for total yardage by Quarterbacks (Passing and Rushing). Ryan Johnson probably would have been the leader had ne not torn his ACL on the 4th play of the first game.

Touchback


CWClassof2007

Quote from: Touchback on September 06, 2016, 04:47:12 PM

That list was for total yardage by Quarterbacks (Passing and Rushing). Ryan Johnson probably would have been the leader had ne not torn his ACL on the 4th play of the first game.
I don't think that most schools put their stats in on maxpreps. So don't take this numbers too seriously.

CWClassof2007


Touchback

Quote from: CWClassof2007 on September 06, 2016, 08:26:07 PM
I don't think that most schools put their stats in on maxpreps. So don't take this numbers too seriously.

Where do you get your stats for the Central Section?

Touchback


Sixtynine

Adrian Martinez - CW










Johnson - Hanford




Johnson - Madera South

Lake - Clovis




Bailey - Clovis North







Everyone else

Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

Sixtynine

Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

Sixtynine

Martinez is the best QB in the section by far. As a high school QB and as far as college potential goes. If you don't agree then you haven't seen him play this year or are in huge denial
Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

Sixtynine

Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

PatsFan

Ratings based on stats is misleading. If the level of competition isn't the same then the stats get skewed in a hurry. Playing top level division I or II opponents is not the same as playing weak lower division teams. Martinez is good ... the rest mentioned??? Too early to be talking about this anyways!


PatsFan


Sixtynine

Martinez added his 3rd offer today. From Cal
Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

Sixtynine

Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

CWClassof2007

Adrian Martinez was just offered by Cal. I believe that's his third offer. The other two being Fresno State & Nevada.

CWClassof2007


Press Box Hero

Quote from: CWClassof2007 on September 07, 2016, 01:24:46 PM
Adrian Martinez was just offered by Cal. I believe that's his third offer. The other two being Fresno State & Nevada.

You are correct on all accounts. I'm curious to see if other PAC-12 offers will soon follow - I believe they will.

Press Box Hero


CWClassof2007

Quote from: Press Box Hero on September 07, 2016, 03:42:28 PM
You are correct on all accounts. I'm curious to see if other PAC-12 offers will soon follow - I believe they will.
He's only a junior so I'm sure they will.

CWClassof2007


Sixtynine

The Cal offer opens up the floodgates for other Power 5 programs
Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

Sixtynine

Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

CWClassof2007

Colorado State has now offered Adrian Martinez.

CWClassof2007


Sideline

Quote from: CWClassof2007 on September 06, 2016, 08:26:07 PM
I don't think that most schools put their stats in on maxpreps. So don't take this numbers too seriously.


Trevor Horn ‏@trevhorn 18h18 hours ago

Reminder. Stats in MaxPreps are put in by coaches, not newspapers. Newspapers cannot put stats of players in print if not in MP, by coaches.
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Sideline


RayRea

I think Martinez is the best but I think the QB from SJM is gonna be a good one.  The Madera South kid is probably the best runner.  I think the Hanford QB Johnson would be number 2 if he wasn't hurt but rt now I wouldn't put him on the list.  Are we talking about stats this year or potential at the next level?
"You have to be careful of people who like to talk a big game but can't back it up." – Ray Lewis

RayRea

"You have to be careful of people who like to talk a big game but can't back it up." – Ray Lewis

eylchamps

Martinez is the best in the valley, D1 player. But, Andre Aguilar from Tulare Western has turned that program around. MO missed out on this kid.
Hanford QB is still a good QB. Best wishes to Mr. Johnson.
WYL wishes they were the EYL

eylchamps

WYL wishes they were the EYL

The Eye in the Sky

It's only been two games but Villarreal has been looking good for us here in Dinuba.
Coach- " So they're gonna let you run the ball this year huh."
Player-" If they wanna win they will."

The Eye in the Sky

Coach- " So they're gonna let you run the ball this year huh."
Player-" If they wanna win they will."

Darth Backer

Martinez has got to continue to prove that he can win big games in order to be considered the best.

Darth Backer


Sixtynine

No, he's the best and division 1 college coaches agree
Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

Sixtynine

Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

Sonny Crockett

Adrian Martinez is the real deal best QB in the Valley, hands down!

Sonny Crockett


ThetruthBeTold

Here is the truths 2 cents.  Martinez is a very good qb, but he's yet to show he can win.  CW will contend for a valley title with him.  However, if you were to replace him at QB with Jonah Johnson (Madera South) or Ryan Johnson (hanford) then CW would contend for state.


ThetruthBeTold


Sixtynine

Quote from: ThetruthBeTold on September 09, 2016, 11:37:40 AM
Here is the truths 2 cents.  Martinez is a very good qb, but he's yet to show he can win.  CW will contend for a valley title with him.  However, if you were to replace him at QB with Jonah Johnson (Madera South) or Ryan Johnson (hanford) then CW would contend for state.

Probably.

Put Martinez on a D3 team and he might score every single play. LOL
Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

Sixtynine

Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

Sixtynine

My 2 cents is that I bet Adrian Martinez puts more than 14 on Kerman
Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

Sixtynine

Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

kastnertbirds

Adrian Martinez is the best hands down. It's not even a competition.
DEFEAT IS ONLY TEMPORARY.....QUITING MAKES IT PERMANENT...

kastnertbirds

DEFEAT IS ONLY TEMPORARY.....QUITING MAKES IT PERMANENT...

CWClassof2007

Adrian Martinez just received on an offer from Missouri.

CWClassof2007


The Eye in the Sky

Quote from: CWClassof2007 on September 10, 2016, 09:25:13 AM
Adrian Martinez just received on an offer from Missouri.

WOW and SEC school. Congrats Kid, I'm sure it won't be the last.
Coach- " So they're gonna let you run the ball this year huh."
Player-" If they wanna win they will."

The Eye in the Sky

Coach- " So they're gonna let you run the ball this year huh."
Player-" If they wanna win they will."

CWClassof2007

Oregon State has now offered Adrian Martinez.

CWClassof2007


PITBOY

Quote from: CWClassof2007 on September 12, 2016, 10:02:10 AM
Oregon State has now offered Adrian Martinez.
y If Jonah Johnson MADERA SOUTH  was in the #TRAC6 he would have multiple offers  " Just Saying "

PITBOY


PITBOY

Quote from: PITBOY on September 12, 2016, 12:50:42 PM
y If Jonah Johnson MADERA SOUTH  was in the #TRAC6 he would have multiple offers  " Just Saying "
BUT FIRST And FOREMOST BIG UPS TO MR MARTINEZ keep it going Kid BLESSINGS HEADED YOUR WAY

PITBOY


GAS2

Quote from: ThetruthBeTold on September 09, 2016, 11:37:40 AM
Here is the truths 2 cents.  Martinez is a very good qb, but he's yet to show he can win.  CW will contend for a valley title with him.  However, if you were to replace him at QB with Jonah Johnson (Madera South) or Ryan Johnson (hanford) then CW would contend for state.

Adrian is the best...and he has shown he can win...he won something like 26 or 27 games against one loss (hell, maybe zero) from 7-9th grade...plus he has 8 more wins under his belt early into his second year as a varsity level starter.   

Bottom line is that he's a very talented HS QB with legit D1 skill.  He's won at every level, is smart on and off the field, an overall good citizen and just a mature, likable kid.  If CW doesn't win a league or valley title under his direction...it will be in spite of having him, not because they have him.

Also, no question there are some other top notch QB's...but saying Adrian is the best doesn't take anything away from the other guys being mentioned.   

GAS2


Sixtynine

Adrian Martinez is far and away the best QB in the section. What the previous poster said: that doesn't mean any disrespect to others. It's just reality.
Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

Sixtynine

Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

kastnertbirds

Quote from: GAS2 on September 12, 2016, 03:29:50 PM
Adrian is the best...and he has shown he can win...he won something like 26 or 27 games against one loss (hell, maybe zero) from 7-9th grade...plus he has 8 more wins under his belt early into his second year as a varsity level starter.   

Bottom line is that he's a very talented HS QB with legit D1 skill.  He's won at every level, is smart on and off the field, an overall good citizen and just a mature, likable kid.  If CW doesn't win a league or valley title under his direction...it will be in spite of having him, not because they have him.

Also, no question there are some other top notch QB's...but saying Adrian is the best doesn't take anything away from the other guys being mentioned.

Granted AM is a STUD!!! He's surrounded by a lot of athletes that make things easy. That junior class is probably they most talented on the valley!
DEFEAT IS ONLY TEMPORARY.....QUITING MAKES IT PERMANENT...

kastnertbirds

DEFEAT IS ONLY TEMPORARY.....QUITING MAKES IT PERMANENT...

Bronco

#4 for the Broncos looks pretty good tonight   :)

Bronco


mw1

#36
It is interesting how, apparently, there are only good quarterbacks up north.  At some point, someone is going to have to start commenting on Garces' quarterback, Conor Bruce.  I saw in earlier comments where the SJM QB was mentioned in this list; however, Garces put up sixty-plus against them.... and Bruce just absolutely dominated.  When Truthbetold picked SJM over Garces, I jumped on that bet quick.. even spotting him 14 or 15 points.  I have seen this kid at QB... and the only reason he's not on anyone's radar is because he was recovering last season from a torn ACL.  This last, post-op, track season, Bruce was one of the fastest 100M and 200M in the section.  In addition to that, part of the reason why his receivers and running backs are experiencing the success they are having is because Bruce is a legit, dual-threat QB.  I am a Drillers guy; however, this is one of those seasons that BHS better be ready for a much-better Garces team... especially after BHS only won by four points vs Garces' team last year (which was not a dominant team).  Also, I predict that, after this season, Garces better hurry along to D2, because their talent-pool (speed-wise) is not going to be as good as it is this year... unless they get some more transfers.  (modified)

Martinez is good (offers and all); however, I think that in an apples-to-apples comparison, Bruce comes out as good, if not better, at QB (compare stats this year, and let's talk)... and, unquestionably, Bruce is the better, overall athlete (just my honest opinion).
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do."

mw1

#36
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do."

Sixtynine

Quote from: mw1 on September 18, 2016, 09:12:28 PM
It is interesting how, apparently, there are only good quarterbacks up north.  At some point, someone is going to have to start commenting on Garces' quarterback, Conor Bruce.  I saw in earlier comments where the SJM QB was mentioned in this list; however, Garces put up sixty-plus against them.... and Bruce just absolutely dominated.  When Truthbetold picked SJM over Garces, I jumped on that bet quick.. even spotting him 14 or 15 points.  I have seen this kid at QB... and the only reason he's not on anyone's radar is because he was recovering last season from a torn ACL.  This last, post-op, track season, Bruce was one of the fastest 100M and 200M in the section.  In addition to that, part of the reason why his receivers and running backs are experiencing the success they are having is because Bruce is a legit, dual-threat QB.  I am a Drillers guy; however, this is one of those seasons that BHS better be ready for a much-better Garces team... especially after BHS only won by four points vs Garces' team last year (which was not a dominant team).  Also, I predict that, after this season, Garces better hurry along to D2... because their talent-pool is going to be sub-par for D1 (and not in a golfing way).

Martinez is good (offers and all); however, I think that in an apples-to-apples comparison, Bruce comes out as good, if not better, at QB (compare stats this year, and let's talk)... and, unquestionably, Bruce is the better, overall athlete (just my honest opinion).

Stats don't tell you who's a better QB. Sorry.
Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

Sixtynine

Just my opinion, but my opinion is right

Virtual Fan

Quote from: Sixtynine on September 18, 2016, 10:16:53 PM
Stats don't tell you who's a better QB. Sorry.
That's true but film does. Have you even watched film on this Quarterback? This thread wasn't to be about the top Quarterback, but the top "Quarterbacks" in the valley. To each their own.

Virtual Fan


Bronco

Quote from: Virtual Fan on September 18, 2016, 10:24:12 PM
That's true but film does. Have you even watched film on this Quarterback? This thread wasn't to be about the top Quarterback, but the top "Quarterbacks" in the valley. To each their own.
I have not seen the Garces QB play but I do know that he & that Program have an outstanding Coach in A J Gass ( Fresno State & Servite Alum  :) ) !!  Bruce's stats are impressive - I'll try to  see some film on him .

Bronco


All Star Kev

Keep an eye out for Alec Trujillo at Memorial. The kids a stud! He was the starting varsity QB for Exeter as a freshman last year before transferring to SJM this year. The kid is a STUD!!!
Corinthians 9:24-27

"Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last, but we do it to get a crown that will last forever

All Star Kev

Corinthians 9:24-27

"Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last, but we do it to get a crown that will last forever

ThetruthBeTold

You have to wonder how much "pull" CW has when it comes to getting there kids recruited.  I assume it's a lot.  Its not what you know, its WHO YOU KNOW. 
Martinez is definitely a D-1 player, but I didn't see anything super special when I watched him play against Liberty.

I will say this, I watched some highlights from the Garces vs SJM game and that Garces QB is scary. 

ThetruthBeTold


Bronco

Quote from: ThetruthBeTold on September 19, 2016, 05:08:27 PM
You have to wonder how much "pull" CW has when it comes to getting there kids recruited.  I assume it's a lot.  Its not what you know, its WHO YOU KNOW. 
Martinez is definitely a D-1 player, but I didn't see anything super special when I watched him play against Liberty.

I will say this, I watched some highlights from the Garces vs SJM game and that Garces QB is scary.
I guarantee you that "knowing somebody" is NEVER going to get a NCAA Program to make ANY offer AT ALL !!! It might get a Coach to take a look at your kid on tape - and if they REALLY like what they see - it might get them to send somebody by to look into the , now considered prospect,. It will NOT get any Program to make an offer to that prospect until they all ( esp the Head Coach) decide that this kid can help them WIN !!

Bronco


the football guy

Quote from: Bronco on September 19, 2016, 07:41:51 PM
I guarantee you that "knowing somebody" is NEVER going to get a NCAA Program to make ANY offer AT ALL !!! It might get a Coach to take a look at your kid on tape - and if they REALLY like what they see - it might get them to send somebody by to look into the , now considered prospect,. It will NOT get any Program to make an offer to that prospect until they all ( esp the Head Coach) decide that this kid can help them WIN !!
Coach you very right... I have a ton of college coaching buddies and no 1 will offer a DB just because I said so... Its like Bronco said, it will get a position coach to look at film, but the green light has to come from the HC and the DC and or OC. A lot of those kids played on Tony Perry summer team which can create some buzz for a kid.

the football guy


Darth Backer

Quote from: All Star Kev on September 19, 2016, 10:50:55 AM
Keep an eye out for Alec Trujillo at Memorial. The kids a stud! He was the starting varsity QB for Exeter as a freshman last year before transferring to SJM this year. The kid is a STUD!!!

That's quite a drive...

Darth Backer


ThetruthBeTold

Quote from: Bronco on September 19, 2016, 07:41:51 PM
I guarantee you that "knowing somebody" is NEVER going to get a NCAA Program to make ANY offer AT ALL !!! It might get a Coach to take a look at your kid on tape - and if they REALLY like what they see - it might get them to send somebody by to look into the , now considered prospect,. It will NOT get any Program to make an offer to that prospect until they all ( esp the Head Coach) decide that this kid can help them WIN !!



I should have elaborated a bit more in my comment.  What I meant was Clovis West can pick up the phone and call a college coach to have them 'LOOK' at a player.  From there its up to the player to perform. 

ThetruthBeTold


the football guy

#46
Quote from: ThetruthBeTold on September 20, 2016, 10:26:14 AM


I should have elaborated a bit more in my comment.  What I meant was Clovis West can pick up the phone and call a college coach to have them 'LOOK' at a player.  From there its up to the player to perform. 
You will be surprise on how many high school coaches CANNOT, I REPEAT CANNOT do that. I only know a few HC how can really do that. and your righ,t the players do have to show. but it takes more then him having to show on the field. Not sure if you guys know this, but just because a kid can get into school A doesn't mean he can get in to school B. every university has it own requirements. just because your kid is a qualifier does not guarantee he will be accepted to a particular university.
I think the CW kid is the best college QB prospect in our area. I know there are good high school QBs but none on this kids level. he might be he best QB sense Dave Steels Tyler Brey

the football guy

#46

ThetruthBeTold

Quote from: the football guy on September 20, 2016, 11:04:37 AM
You will be surprise on how many high school coaches CANNOT, I REPEAT CANNOT do that. I only know a few HC how can really do that.




Is CW one of them? What about club coaches?

ThetruthBeTold


Darth Backer

Quote from: ThetruthBeTold on September 20, 2016, 11:12:52 AM



Is CW one of them? What about club coaches?

It's just not how it works.  It blows my mind how the system works as opposed to how people (especially parents and club coaches) think the system works.

Darth Backer


ThetruthBeTold

Quote from: Darth Backer on September 20, 2016, 11:18:32 AM
It's just not how it works.  It blows my mind how the system works as opposed to how people (especially parents and club coaches) think the system works.




how does it work darth?

ThetruthBeTold


the football guy

#50
Quote from: ThetruthBeTold on September 20, 2016, 11:12:52 AM



Is CW one of them? What about club coaches?
It is not the schools.....But coaches.... and not all club ball coaches can call a caoch. in our area, the only club coach that I know for fact that can do that is Tony Perry..in Bakersfield/LA area its the guys at Ground Zero. some may lie and say they can, or may know (A) college coach. but most cannot call a coach and have that coach answer his call..
You see a lot of these coaches deal with coaches who they have a long running trustworthy relationships.
recruiting can be crazy. Just because at one point you have a kid being recruited by schools doesnt mean you have contacts. in most cases you will never hear from that coach again, it can be because they dont have time, it can be because he has moved on to a different school..etc....but the coaches that have a long standing  trustworthy relationship, are the ones college coaches look for when recruiting a certain area. Most of the time they ask is there any other kids in the area they might not know about. and you should give them the kids name along with his school and his HC name or contact info if you happen to have it. and thats how some coaches find these players/HS. You also have HS coaches who start meeting College coaches because of the players. Some players get on club teams DB GURU and blow up and now the kids HS coach will get to meet coaches. so it can be a win win situation. What I dont like that some, not all club coaches do, is step on players HS Coaches toes when it comes to recruiting, and that is where I personally have a problem with.
SO I hope this Book LOL answer your question

the football guy

#50

ThetruthBeTold

Quote from: the football guy on September 20, 2016, 12:27:02 PM
It is not the schools.....But coaches.... and not all club ball coaches can call a caoch. in our area, the only club coach that I know for fact that can do that is Tony Perry..in Bakersfield/LA area its the guys at Ground Zero. some may lie and say they can, or may know (A) college coach. but most cannot call a coach and have that coach answer his call..
You see a lot of these coaches deal with coaches who they have a long running trustworthy relationships.
recruiting can be crazy. Just because at one point you have a kid being recruited by schools doesnt mean you have contacts. in most cases you will never hear from that coach again, it can be because they dont have time, it can be because he has moved on to a different school..etc....but the coaches that have a long standing  trustworthy relationship, are the ones college coaches look for when recruiting a certain area. Most of the time they ask is there any other kids in the area they might not know about. and you should give them the kids name along with his school and his HC name or contact info if you happen to have it. and thats how some coaches find these players/HS. You also have HS coaches who start meeting College coaches because of the players. Some players get on club teams DB GURU and blow up and now the kids HS coach will get to meet coaches. so it can be a win win situation. What I dont like that some, not all club coaches do, is step on players HS Coaches toes when it comes to recruiting, and that is where I personally have a problem with.
SO I hope this Book LOL answer your question


Great answer! Thanks Football Guy

ThetruthBeTold


CMPunk

Quote from: All Star Kev on September 19, 2016, 10:50:55 AM
Keep an eye out for Alec Trujillo at Memorial. The kids a stud! He was the starting varsity QB for Exeter as a freshman last year before transferring to SJM this year. The kid is a STUD!!!



I believe this. I've seen the film on him, and I hear he's been giving the starting SJM qb a run for his money. Hopefully we'll see him play this season at some point ;) Lol

CMPunk